Your bet is almost up and I think you are winning if Android smart phones are counted. Congratulations for being so close and perhaps winning. Don’t believe people who might say you are giving free software a bad name, that’s a standard tactic used by Microsoft Technical Evangelists who would like for people like you to quit calling out their lies and distortions.

I also keep a Microsoft Death Watch and Microsoft Patent Extortion Timeline you might be interested in. The patent extortion is only part of Microsoft’s anti-competitive activity. They also engage in technical sabotage like ACPI power management , retail manipulation like they did to Walmart and Bill Gates is trying to buy control of US public schools all to prop up Microsoft Windows.

Rather amusing, that.

Wayne

I noticed, (as I expected) that you would not be willing to take on such a bet, and yes, im from Australia, and we have technology here, and I would just do a bank transfer, for your money.. Posting all the documentation of the transaction (except accnt numbers and so on, no personal info).

And you can do the same assuming you win your bet, but as I said, a $20 bet is not really showing a great deal of conviction in your beliefs.

And No I do not nor ever have worked for Microsoft, Im a Systems Engineer, and most of my Operating System application programming has been with VMS.

But I do use MS and software able to run on MS apps, as it’s required for me to do my job, there are no FOSS apps up to the task of commercial grade SCADA systems.

But ill say it again, if you are using Vista, and you are having trouble getting it to work, you might want to upgrade from SP1, SP2/3 work perfectly on my average spec’d desktop, and my Win7 build 7100 works fine on this even lower speced semperon laptop.

So as I expected, you’re not willing to put you’re money where you’re mouth is, thats fine, im sure you can ride the reduction in your credibility.

Right now, I am running Windows Vista with “Microsoft Security Essentials.” It is an operating system with its ups and downs. Why do you say I “cant (sic) get windows stable they have no right commenting about software quality and reliability or security as clearly you dont (sic) have a clue?” Many other *Microsoft* customers say they hate Vista. Are you calling everyone who has something bad to say about a Microsoft product clueless? http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/04/28/everybody-hates-vista.aspx

For the second time, I ask you to use some sort of spelling and grammar checking software. Maybe you should consider how you “make yourself look incompetent with it (sic) comes to things the vast majority of the world find trivial.”

Also, for the second time, I challenge you to tell me specifically where I have said something that is untrue.

so I guess, you should attack Linus for making “balmer” like statements and generating “FUD” against Linux. ?

or that Oricle’s take over of SUN is not generating fear, and doubt within the FOSS community in regards to MySQL and OO.org ?

Or the FUD generated by the Novell/MS “deal” and how it was going to destroy FOSS and so on ?

Or the FSF writing letting the CEO’s of fortune 500 companies to give personalised FUD directly to them, did you read that letter ? what is that if it’s not FUD, im sure the CEO’s found great amusement in that, if they got it, their secretaries or spam filters would of fixed that.

what about the fear generated by the FSF and RMS that if you do something that he does not agree with that you may cause a re-write of the GPL to exclude you. Just because RMS does not agree with you.

Thats Fear, Uncertainty and doubt, FOSS is full of it, and im interested in this site because you’ve taken the easy path (the dark side) and joined the massive crouds perpetuating this FUD.

If you think you’ve won the FUD war you may be right, as the “other” side did not engage you. It seems they are not willing to play that game, and prefer to rely on customer satisifaction, and real information.

Not just something thought up to make someone else look bad. That only FUD you are really generating is the damaging kind to the very movement you claim to support.

Most people look and read comments like yours and the many others engaging in this folly and wonder for one WHY and where do they get their “facts” from.

When you say things like “windows crashes all the time” most people who actually USE windows think “do these guys/gals actually know ANYTHING about computers” if they cant get windows stable they have no right commenting about software quality and reliability or security as clearly you dont have a clue.

It’s trivial to run modern windows OS totally reliability and securely, so people ask why are YOU having so much trouble?

You claim computer expertise and thats great, so why then make yourself look incompetent with it comes to things the vast majority of the world find trivial ?

Then you go on and expect us to believe you’re technical competance and take you’re “advice” that all things MS are evil, and it’s not the quality of the software that matter’s it’s the “freedom”. By RMS’s narrow definition of the word.

So again, still waiting for confirmation of that bet !

FUD is saying, that MS is trying to destroy FOSS, or is by definition because it’s proprietary, (or pick your particular gripe with MS) or whatever is somehow automaticly evil.

Having the FSF write letters to 499 of the top fortune 500 companies, and spend all that effort in directing FUD, Fear and uncertainty about MS, not based on case studies, or industry comments but based purely on significant bias.

So you posted 3 MS web sites that do comparisons with Linux and UNIX so what, where is the FUD in that ?

Where is the “opinion” and bias, where are the unsupported sweeping statements about EVIL, borg, baby killers, or whatever.

Where are the vast lists of web sites dedicated to promoting Linux and FUD’ing the begeebers out of MS ? For every one of your MS links containing NO FUD but industry feedback and real studies, sponsored by MS or not.

And I know you have a $20 dollar bet, are you SO sure of yourself that you are only willing to risk $20 Dollars ?

Seems to me, that is a speculation and you’re willing to do your $20 if you are wrong, but in the mean time it’s a good vehicle for your own brand of self admitted FUD.

So why not make it interesting ??

I offer you a bet on the same terms as your $20 bet, ill give you 2 to 1 on the terms of your bet, but the bet has to be REAL and controled by a third party.

And the bet for you will be US$1000, if you win ill give you US$2000.

How can you go wrong on those odds, any one else want “in”. ?

And no im not scared you are right, or wrong. Im just pointing out the hypocricy of your FUD campain. FUD is not a good look, and I dont see MS engaging in it, but it’s the primary FOSS tool, and it makes FOSS look bad.

“We dont like MS so we’ll say lies about them, and do our best to make people not like them”. as opposed to saying how damn good our own products are, it’s easier to try to pull everyone down to the lowest common level.

That is what I dont like about all the FUD surronding FOSS, it’s full of it, as if it’s the only tool they know of to fight their percieved enemies.

When you could actually compete on quality and functionality, and all the effort in fighting MS could be redirected in creating a better FOSS world.

I used to use FOSS and Linux all the time, but it’s quality and the extremeism that has overtaken what was technically good and usable has just become a vehicle for hate and bitterness towards MS.

I dont think MS is the best thing ever, but I do not ever see the level of depth of FUD from MS that FOSS and the likes of yourself seem to revell in.

So you up for a REAL bet, not what you pay for a couple cups of coffee ??

Are you that sure of yourself ?? I am, so go for it.. There is $2000 in it for you if you’re so sure you’re right

Here is just for starters some links off of microsoft.com
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/compare/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/compare/windows-server-vs-red-hat-linux.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/compare/linux/server-security.mspx

And my personal favorite, “Bill Gates Linux,” mocksite hosted for free on Office Live
http://bglinux.com/default.aspx

How about some Steve Ballmer Quotes…
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_cancer/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/18/ballmer_linux_lawsuits/
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9005171/Ballmer_Linux_users_owe_Microsoft_

Microsoft has been feeding me FUD since 1998. That is actually how I heard of Linux, through pro-Microsoft FUD 12 years ago. This stuff is yummy. Keep it coming Microsoft, please! The more Microsoft spreads the FUD, the more people are talking about Linux.

I dish out my own FUD too. You are right, Darryl, Microsoft can not compete with all of the FUD that FOSS fans are serving up. Now that Microsoft has lost the FUD war, we need to stop FUD-ing? Heck no, we are somewhere between GandhiCon 3 and 4. whatwillweuse.com will be there to document the very moment that the tables turn for Microsoft as for market share. There is no way I am quitting now, even if the President of the Free Software Foundation, Richard S. Stallman, asked me to.

My editorials are bias by the fact that I have a $20 bet on the line. That has been disclosed in the about page. If that makes me a FUD flinger, then so be it. You can disagree and FUD back. In fact, please do. You have seen other pro-Linux blogs on the Internet say a lot of the same stuff, yet you spend so much time commenting here. Really, I am flattered. Consider this: you are scared that I am right.