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	<description>Microsoft&#039;s market share will be less than 50%. Today 45.5%  on Browser and 84.07% on Desktop  and less than $53 billion on Office Suite.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;KDE&#039;s board of directors includes a usability expert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Her name is Celeste Lyn Paul, and she was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kdenews.org/2009/07/07/kde-ev-elects-new-board-directors&quot;&gt;just elected&lt;/a&gt;.  She&#039;s not really a programmer, but in the KDE world, if she tells you to change your UI, you do it.  I&#039;ve spent the last week hunting down cases of geeky wording and changing it to something normal folks understand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also:&lt;br /&gt;
According to a chart (from Microsoft) Bethlynn links in a later post, Linux &amp; Apple are about equal in marketshare.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KDE&#8217;s board of directors includes a usability expert</p>
<p>Her name is Celeste Lyn Paul, and she was <a href="http://www.kdenews.org/2009/07/07/kde-ev-elects-new-board-directors">just elected</a>.  She&#8217;s not really a programmer, but in the KDE world, if she tells you to change your UI, you do it.  I&#8217;ve spent the last week hunting down cases of geeky wording and changing it to something normal folks understand.</p>
<p>Also:<br />
According to a chart (from Microsoft) Bethlynn links in a later post, Linux &#038; Apple are about equal in marketshare.</p>
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		<title>By: gregsim</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregsim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Microsoft is Indeed Losing It&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am growing increasingly confident that Microsoft is losing their market dominance, but 24 months is bold.  I think that you are absolutely correct however.  Reading the Slashdot article on Microsoft&#039;s disaster with the London Stock Exchange (http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=09/07/03/1216250) really drives home the problems with Microsoft reliability.  Their vicious marketing will only lose them the loyalty of their user base.  I am exhibit A.  Every year I question why I renew my Microsoft Action Pack.  I will probably do it again this year, but one of these time I will forget.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, why on earth are you using this Microsoft platform?  Aren&#039;t there oodles of Open Source blogging sites?  Wordpress?  I thought I needed to sign up to post.  It was agony working through the stupid Microsoft sign-up form.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To add further insult and injury, this stupid form won&#039;t let me post!  I am trying again as LiveJournal user.  What a piece of crap!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is Indeed Losing It</p>
<p>I am growing increasingly confident that Microsoft is losing their market dominance, but 24 months is bold.  I think that you are absolutely correct however.  Reading the Slashdot article on Microsoft&#8217;s disaster with the London Stock Exchange (<a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=09/07/03/1216250" rel="nofollow">http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=09/07/03/1216250</a>) really drives home the problems with Microsoft reliability.  Their vicious marketing will only lose them the loyalty of their user base.  I am exhibit A.  Every year I question why I renew my Microsoft Action Pack.  I will probably do it again this year, but one of these time I will forget.  </p>
<p>By the way, why on earth are you using this Microsoft platform?  Aren&#8217;t there oodles of Open Source blogging sites?  WordPress?  I thought I needed to sign up to post.  It was agony working through the stupid Microsoft sign-up form.  </p>
<p>To add further insult and injury, this stupid form won&#8217;t let me post!  I am trying again as LiveJournal user.  What a piece of crap!</p>
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		<title>By: landley</title>
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		<dc:creator>landley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised to see Windows lose majority market share to Apple.  But it won&#039;t lose it to Linux.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it&#039;s worse than that: based on the past few decades of history, open source&#039;s inability to deal with user interface issues stems from deep structural problems in the open source development model.  Any time &quot;shut up and show me the code&quot; is not a valid way to address an issue, developers will split and implement both ways, and the project will either fork itself to death (gnome, kde, xfce, enlightenment, and a dozen others) or produce an unmanageable number of configuration options and delegate everything to the user (generally without sane defaults).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe this will change someday, but every year since 1998 has been &quot;the year of the Linux desktop&quot;.  We&#039;ve cried wolf so much nobody listens to us anymore.  It&#039;s been over a decade with us still under 1% desktop market share.  Dell&#039;s linux laptops still aren&#039;t linked from their main page.  Over 90% of subnotebooks now ship with windows (because microsoft heavily subsidizes them so those come with better hardware, but the result&#039;s the same).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, Apple is over 10% market share and rising.  Most of the Linux kernel developers I know now do their development on mac laptops, which either dual boot MacOS X or run Linux under parallels.  (I know a few who don&#039;t even bother to do that, and ssh to a linux server to do Linux development.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised to see Windows lose majority market share to Apple.  But it won&#8217;t lose it to Linux.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s worse than that: based on the past few decades of history, open source&#8217;s inability to deal with user interface issues stems from deep structural problems in the open source development model.  Any time &#8220;shut up and show me the code&#8221; is not a valid way to address an issue, developers will split and implement both ways, and the project will either fork itself to death (gnome, kde, xfce, enlightenment, and a dozen others) or produce an unmanageable number of configuration options and delegate everything to the user (generally without sane defaults).</p>
<p>Maybe this will change someday, but every year since 1998 has been &#8220;the year of the Linux desktop&#8221;.  We&#8217;ve cried wolf so much nobody listens to us anymore.  It&#8217;s been over a decade with us still under 1% desktop market share.  Dell&#8217;s linux laptops still aren&#8217;t linked from their main page.  Over 90% of subnotebooks now ship with windows (because microsoft heavily subsidizes them so those come with better hardware, but the result&#8217;s the same).</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Apple is over 10% market share and rising.  Most of the Linux kernel developers I know now do their development on mac laptops, which either dual boot MacOS X or run Linux under parallels.  (I know a few who don&#8217;t even bother to do that, and ssh to a linux server to do Linux development.)</p>
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		<title>By: markd2</title>
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		<dc:creator>markd2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;according to gartner, Symbian has the majority of the market, followed by RIM, with windows mobile third with around 12%:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.intomobile.com/2009/03/13/mobile-os-market-share-stats-confirm-rim-apple-leading-the-charge.html&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to gartner, Symbian has the majority of the market, followed by RIM, with windows mobile third with around 12%:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intomobile.com/2009/03/13/mobile-os-market-share-stats-confirm-rim-apple-leading-the-charge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.intomobile.com/2009/03/13/mobile-os-market-share-stats-confirm-rim-apple-leading-the-charge.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: fxchip</title>
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		<dc:creator>fxchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the gaming industry: I believe the Wii currently has the lead in market share, in fact. However, due to the much lower price point for similar capability, the Xbox 360 leads the PS3. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for mobile, the jury&#039;s still out. As much hype as the iPhone regularly generates, it&#039;s far from having the most market share; its high price and exclusive long-term carrier lock-in have almost guaranteed that for it. Windows Mobile runs on a really wide variety of phones, and is arguably the only *standard* cross-manufacturer mobile operating system -- Palm&#039;s got WebOS, Apple&#039;s got iPhone OS, Nokia has (I believe) Symbian (as well as their own drop-in Linux thing, I think), HTC generally writes its own firmware but (under T-Mobile) has a few Android-running phones, RIM has Blackberry&#039;s OS, and everyone else uses Microsoft. And as far as I&#039;ve seen market share is fairly evenly divided, but everyone wants the iPhone. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You chose your words wisely; I&#039;m not entirely certain that open source directly is going to be the one to displace Microsoft, but it might certainly be Apple -- who, of course, open sources their core components (but, sadly, none of their cooler stuff, like UI). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All things considered, though, Apple could definitely be a lot more scary than Microsoft. It would be a massive regression for the computer industry if they got that much share. Too much lock-in BS. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck, I hope you win, for all our sakes. :D &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the gaming industry: I believe the Wii currently has the lead in market share, in fact. However, due to the much lower price point for similar capability, the Xbox 360 leads the PS3. </p>
<p>As for mobile, the jury&#8217;s still out. As much hype as the iPhone regularly generates, it&#8217;s far from having the most market share; its high price and exclusive long-term carrier lock-in have almost guaranteed that for it. Windows Mobile runs on a really wide variety of phones, and is arguably the only *standard* cross-manufacturer mobile operating system &#8212; Palm&#8217;s got WebOS, Apple&#8217;s got iPhone OS, Nokia has (I believe) Symbian (as well as their own drop-in Linux thing, I think), HTC generally writes its own firmware but (under T-Mobile) has a few Android-running phones, RIM has Blackberry&#8217;s OS, and everyone else uses Microsoft. And as far as I&#8217;ve seen market share is fairly evenly divided, but everyone wants the iPhone. </p>
<p>You chose your words wisely; I&#8217;m not entirely certain that open source directly is going to be the one to displace Microsoft, but it might certainly be Apple &#8212; who, of course, open sources their core components (but, sadly, none of their cooler stuff, like UI). </p>
<p>All things considered, though, Apple could definitely be a lot more scary than Microsoft. It would be a massive regression for the computer industry if they got that much share. Too much lock-in BS. </p>
<p>Good luck, I hope you win, for all our sakes. <img src='http://whatwillweuse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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